Transcript of Sean Plunkett’s Attack on All Deaf and Hard of Hearing New Zealanders – Totally Uncalled For.
We wish to express our disappointment at the treatment received by the chairperson of the NZ Captioning Working Group, Louise Carroll, during Sean Plunkett’s talkback RadioLIVE show on Friday morning.
Louise called in to the programme hosted by Sean Plunkett as they were discussing Human Rights. Take a look at the transcript below provided by a volunteer. We encourage you to read it through to the end.
Louise, on behalf of the many thousands of New Zealanders that need and benefit from captioning, THANK YOU, for your advocacy. To all reading this, please share this blog far and wide. Comment on our Facebook page and follow us on Twitter as we advocate for captioning.
<<(Announcer) This is live. (Sean) Oh yes it is indeed. Louise good morning to you.
(Louise) Good morning. I’m Louise. I’m the CEO of the National Foundation for the Deaf and I’m also on the International Federation for the Hard a Hearing Board globally and with Human Rights responsibilities. I live in Auckland. I’m Hard of Hearing and um I’ve got a lot of knowledge about the Convention of the Rights of People with Disabilities, and we have got this major issue with the lack of captioning on the Rugby World Cup Games
(Louise) For people like me so and under article 9 of the convention we have been, which NZ signed in 2008, we have been assured accessibility and there’s no captioning we can’t access the Rugby games Rugby World Cup
(Sean) Oh now Louise you’ve come right out of left field at me ah but this is interesting. I do think it’s interesting. Thank you for calling and raising this issue. How many people umm do have a hearing disability in New Zealand?
(Louise) Well the World Health Organisation the World Health Organisation says 1:6 people have some type of hearing loss and they estimate by 2050 it will be 1:4 so we’re looking at hundreds of thousands of New Zealanders who want to use captioning. Some
(Sean) Ok so have you had hundreds and thousands of New Zealanders contact you beefing about this?
(Louise) We have hundreds contacting us yes.
(Sean) Hundreds? hundreds?
(Louise) Yeah probably more than hundreds when you think about it.
(Louise) And then the other thing is..
(Sean) And they’ve all contacted you and say and say
(Louise) In the last
(Sean) Louise can we just check they’ve all contacted you to complain about this
(Louise) Yes there’s a number of Facebook pages up running about it
(Louise) And yes Deaf Aotearoa New Zealand and the National Foundation for the Deaf we’ve all got blogs going about it and then I talked to the Prime Minister about it two days ago and Mojo Mathers raised it in the House yesterday
(Louise) and asking you know what’s going on ‘cos we had captioning in the last Rugby World Cup series when it was on um put on by TV New Zealand but its Sky TV that are not giving the such but in the UK
(Sean) Whoa, hang on, what would the captions be? because actually you can watch the TV with the Rugby off. You can watch the Rugby with the, sorry not the TV, Rugby with the sound off you can see they’ve got big numbers on their backs.
(Sean) You can see what what’s happening
(Louise) yes. When you’re ah someone like me for instance I don’t actually understand who’s in what number but I listen and I understand what’s going on in the game by reading what’s going on.
(Sean) But why, look Louise why don’t you just, why don’t you learn what the positions are and whose in what position and why don’t you just learn what who wears what number on their back and you wouldn’t have to look. To be honest a lot of us turn the commentary off because its so rubbish.
(Louise) Yeah but you have the choice. We don’t.
(Sean) But, but really is this such a problem? As I say I don’t
(Louise) It’s a serious problem. It’s a really serious
(Sean talking over Louise) What that you don’t hear Grant Nisbett or like Tony Johnson flapping on, you don’t hear the inane sideline comments of people like Justin Marshall
(Louise) That’s the rugby world cup but in fact it’s across all television. Um we’ve got really low rates of captioning across all television so you know those recent Emmy Awards there was only one of the major programmes that was captioned. Most of them about 75 – 80% not captioned so its not just Rugby its right across everything. So in the UK its legislated and in um the US its legislated and the Broadcasters have to fund not taxpayers money and we’re saying taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for this in New Zealand. We’re saying that we need
(Sean) Shouldn’t be
(Louise) No they shouldn’t be it should be broadcasters who are paying for it out of like Sky TV and Television New Zealand that’s what’s going on internationally.
(Sean) They’re commercial organisations though eh?
(Louise) Mm, yes they are
(Sean) So why would you make them do something that might not be commercially viable?
(Louise) They actually want to have the access. Somebody doing an advert on for example um on a new product that’s come on the market
(Sean) Yeah but that’s up to them Louise
(Louise) If its not captioned then we’re not gonna know what it’s about and so the advertisers are not getting enough full value. I
(Sean) Well I’m sure the advertisers if they’re worried about it would pay for it Louise.
(Louise) and some of them are now.
(Sean) Louise you do have a hearing problem because you’re not actually engaging in a conversation.
(Louise) What was that?
(Sean) You do have a hearing problem ‘cos you’re not engaging in a conversation.
(Louise) Yes I do have a hearing problem you’re right.
(Sean) Right, gotcha.
[Click, Sean hangs up on Louise]
(Sean) I’m not given that what Louise said I think we’d heard all we could from Louise and not really got a word in edgeways. Look I would hate to have a disability like that. Are hearing disabilities really such a big deal? Has really hundreds of people complained to Louise about this or is it just lets jump on the Rugby World Cup bandwagon to push our point and if it’s a commercial organisation does it have to provide captions? I’m sure if the advertisers were upset about that they would provide captions. I’m not being hard arse here I’m also saying its pretty simple to watch Rugby with the sound turned off and know what’s going on. Big letters on the back of those jerseys. Big letters.
Why not turn on the radio, I am sure there are radio commentaries somewhere and oh and no that doesn’t work does it? Bugger, umm oh a semaphore or something.
I dunno. Am I being mean? what do you think? Guys, give us a ring on 0800 844 747 um and I’d like to hear from you if you are one of those hundreds of people who did complain.
Audio recordings found on RadioLIVE website
25 September 10.30 slot.